The real shame in Pakistan

By Asra Q. Nomani Share

In this month's issue of FHM India, an international men's magazine, Pakistani actress Veena Malik made worldwide headlines with a risqué nude photo shoot. While much of the attention has been on what Malik wasn't wearing, one of the most powerful elements of her photo shoot was what she was sporting: a big, bold tattoo on her left arm, stating very simply, "ISI," for Pakistani's secretive Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate.

The cover headline: "Pakistani W.M.D. Veena Malik Shows You How to Throw a Grenade!" 

Indeed, the cover has been explosive; PakAlertPress.com, for instance splashed a headline on its blog: "India and Pakistan Are Going Nuclear Over Provocative Political Tattoo." And the photo has elicited a furious reaction in Pakistan's media and in its living rooms.[[Break]]

In one fell swoop, the enormous tattoo on a bare woman's body managed to demystify, emasculate and parody the ISI -- something most people have been afraid to do in public since the inception of the agency a year after the birth of the nation in 1947. Founded with a mission of coordinating intelligence in the country after Pakistan's loss to India in the 1947 war in Kashmir, the agency has become a feared, though privately mocked, enterprise, its hands allegedly in every back-room Pakistani deal; rigging elections, training militants for battle in India and Afghanistan, and monitoring its own citizens. The tattoo's location on Malik's body takes on special meaning in light of retired Adm. Mike Mullen's statement in September that the militant Haqqani Network, considered by most Western analysts and experts to be based in the tribal areas of Pakistan, is a "veritable arm" of the ISI. 

All the while, the ISI works in the cloak of darkness. In 2002, when I was trying to find my kidnapped Wall Street Journal colleague Daniel Pearl, I met an ISI officer in my living room in Karachi who acknowledged his employer, but introduced himself as "Major." "Major what?" I asked. "Major Major," he said. Nice. Really helpful.

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To scholars on Pakistan, the ISI tattoo is emblematic of an important new civil discourse occurring in Pakistan over issues that were formerly taboo, such as the role of the ISI in society. Hassan Abbas, the author of Pakistan's Drift into Extremism: Allah, the Army, and America's War on Terror, about growing militancy in Pakistan, said new media freedoms are eliciting rich debate in the country on deep, contested issues "such as the role of religion in society and the interference of the military in political arena." He adds, "These issues are being openly debated in Pakistan, and that is, overall, a healthy development."

Kabeer Sharma, editor of FHM India, says the ISI tattoo was meant to be a sardonic reflection of India's own conspiracy theories about the intelligence agency. "In India, you say, 'The milk has gone bad. The ISI did it,' They blame all of their problems on ISI," says Sharma.

Sharma, the son of an Indian satirist and New Delhi bookstore owner, says that a dilemma on the subcontinent is that folks don't laugh enough over the absurdities of politics. "The problem," he says, "is that we all blame our problems on this imaginary force. Who is this ISI?" Meanwhile, on the Pakistan side, everything is blamed on RAW. "We collectively have no sense of humor. We have no sense of irony," he says.

As a media image, the Malik photo was a genius expression of a real counterculture movement taking root in Pakistan, taking a dig at the secretive "Major Major" culture of the ISI, by literally exposing the agency -- and by extension, the government -- to the light of day, if just in a simple tattoo. (Malik says that the photo was altered, and both Malik and FHM are engaged in a legal battle over the issue.)

While a Pakistani newspaper said the country "yawns"at the Malik photo, it chronicled columns, commentaries and jokes circulating in the nation, including one that goes like this: "Her arm says ISI but the picture is RAW," a reference to India's intelligence agency, the Research and Analysis Wing.

But this isn't just a conspiracy hatched in India (though the magazine was produced there), feeding the siege mentality behind so much of the rhetoric in Pakistan. In a country where the "ghairat brigade," or honor squad, of talking heads takes regularly to the airwaves to defend Pakistan's honor against enemies -- perceived and imagined -- the photo shoot was a victory for a new movement that is emerging in Pakistan: the beghairat brigade, or the squad "without honor," or more aptly the "shameless brigade." 

To many, the beghairat brigade offers a counter to the conspiracy theories that so permeate debates in Pakistan. Josh White, a scholar on Pakistan at the U.S. Institute of Peace, says, "I think the significance of the small but interesting beghairat movement is that it is trying to forge a way of being genuinely nationalistic without accepting the narrative that all of Pakistan's problems are the result of someone else's meddling."

Malik and her generation in Pakistani society illustrate a deeper battle that is playing out in Pakistan and Muslim communities on issues of honor, or ghairat, and shame, called sharam. Flagging this evolution, the acerbic Pakistani columnist Nadeem Paracha wrote earlier this year, "Goodbye ghairat."

With a sense of wit, irony and humor, the beghairat brigade offers the nation an opportunity to expunge itself of the corrosive relationship with traditional honor-shame culture, by challenging the warped sense of honor and dishonor that has defined much of the country's ethos on issues from corruption to nuclear non-proliferation, "honor killings" of women and men, homegrown militant networks, and the ISI. And the beghairat's work is rooted in Pakistani tradition with sardonic 20th century writers such as Saadat Hasan Manto, the author of the must-read book, Letters to Uncle Sam, and a favorite of Malik's.

The Pakistani military's public relations office reportedly sent a text message to local journalists from the Pakistani grousing that the photo was "the height of humiliation for Pakistan, done by a Pakistani on Indian soil." In a Pakistani socialists' listserv, one Pakistani writer, giving the ISI acronym new meaning, wrote, tongue-in-cheek,"Is this part of a grand conspiracy to implicate the great International Soldiers of Islam (ISI) in a controversy by the enemies of Islam...." If so, he joked, "every soldier of Islam would be eyeing to be part of the investigation team."

What is ironic is that while there have been calls to revoke Malik's Pakistani citizenship (rejected, fortunately, by the courts), there are some less-than-exemplary characters who have been lauded in the country by the "ghairat brigade." For instance, Faisal Shahzad, the would-be Times Square bomber, is considered a victim by many in Pakistan, despite having confessed to the crime for which he has been imprisoned, the attempted murder of a number of innocents.

Then there is A.Q. Khan, the Pakistani nuclear scientist who signed a confession in 2004 that he gave nuclear secrets to the North Koreans, Iran and Libya, in violation of international nonproliferation agreements; he was pardoned, and today he is a hero in the country. Years ago, Pakistanis took to the streets when American agents caught and extradited Mir Amal Kansi, a Pakistani who shot and killed CIA employees in 1993 as they sat in their cars at a traffic light in Langley, Va. And, then, lest we forget, there is the serious homegrown militancy problem of a Punjabi Taliban and a Pakistani Taliban that includes tens of thousands of militant soldiers, based on many estimates, freely living in the country without much harassment.

Finally, there is Aafia Siddiqui, a Pakistani MIT graduate known as "Lady al-Qaeda." She was convicted last year in a U.S. court for attempting to shoot a U.S. soldier in Afghanistan, but, in a country where the average income is about $450 a year, the government of Pakistan allocated some $2 million for her defense, and Pakistanis in the "Free Aafia" movement march regularly on the streets. 

Deborah Scroggins, a journalist and author of the provocative forthcoming book, Wanted Women: Faith, Lies and the War on Terror: The Lives of Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Aafia Siddiqui, says, "If Aafia Siddiqui is Pakistan's 'daughter of the nation,' Veena Malik is her perfect alter ego. The 'ghairat brigade' holds up Aafia as the symbol of Pakistan victimized by the West. Veena mocks their pretentions to purity and challenges their obsession with sex."

Scroggins lays out the contrast that is symbolic of the divide that has engulfed Pakistan: Born in 1972, Siddiqui comes from the rigid, puritantical, Deobandi interpretation of Islam, and came of age during the 1980s, when jihad was celebrated in Pakistan as the source of the great defeat over the Soviet Union in Afghanistan. "She's revered by the 'ghairat brigade' because although she went to the U.S. to study at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Brandeis University, she never 'went over to the other side,' so to speak" Scroggins adds. "She never stopped raising money for jihad. She continued to view the U.S. as the enemy of Pakistan and of Muslims. When she was captured in Afghanistan, Pakistan's right-wing pundits and politicians rushed to accuse the country's democratically elected government of selling her to the U.S. in exchange for money, even though there was no evidence that the government had anything to do with it."  

Born in 1984, "Veena is a symbol of another Pakistan, one that has existed since the founding of the state, but that we've seen less and less of with the rise of Islamization," says Scroggins. "It's an irreverrant, mocking, creative, secular Pakistan -- the voice of writers and poets like Ahmed Faiz," a biting 20th century intellectual. "Unfortunately it tends to be confined to the upper classes and is very much under threat these days," she says. 

Both Malik and Siddiqui "broke the rules about the way Pakistani women are supposed to behave," Scroggins says. Siddiqui was divorced from her doctor husband and remarried a younger man, 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammad's nephew, Ali Abdul Aziz Ali, another 9/11 facilitator. Her activities endangered her children; she was caught shooting at a U.S. soldier. "But she is forgiven for all of that because Pakistanis believe she did it for Pakistan and Islam," says Scroggins. "It's assumed that Veena, on the other hand, is only having her nude picture taken for money. And that's the way the ‘ghairat brigade' always portrays the motives of Pakistan's secularists."  

Aisha Chowdhry, a 24-year-old Pakistani-American journalist who produced a documentary, "Inside the Tinder Box," about Pakistan, says the Malik cover, whether nude as it appeared or topless, as Malik insists the photo was originally, "should not come as a surprise" to those watching the counterculture movement in Pakistan. "Art always has been a way for Pakistanis to showcase how they feel," she says. "Today, there are songs criticizing the government, paintings depicting terrorism in Pakistan, and now a racy photo of one of the country's most famous models with an ISI tattoo."

Chowdhry says, "In a country where journalists get killed if they dare to investigate sensitive issues, music videos and plays are one of the few ways to connect the young generation with what is going on in their country, and maybe even make a positive change someday."

In a piece on al-Jazeera before the Malik controversy, Syed Ali Abbas Zaida, founder of the Pakistan Youth Alliance, asked, "Can the youth of Pakistan inspire change and turn into pro-active citizens who agree to disagree peacefully?" The next month, the aptly-named band "Beghairat Brigade," uploaded its catchy new tune, "Aalu Anday" (or "Eggs and Potatoes"), calling out the politicians and military for their ineptitude in running the country. 

Pakistani singer Ali Azmat just put out a new song, "Bomb Phata," ("Bomb Exploded"), that chronicles the major actors that play a part in Pakistan's instability, from President Asif Ali Zardari to army chief Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani. It speaks to the daily worries about electricity and food shortages that vex Pakistanis while bombs explode in Lahore, Karachi, and the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA).

And people regularly slam the government's inability to contain the domestic terrorism that is striking the country. This year, Pakistani artist Imran Qureshi won a prestigious award for his art installation, "Blessings upon the land of my love," describing his work as showing "the bloody aftermath of a bombing."

Malik's photo is a little more subtle, but in its nuance, it's likely to become an iconic symbol of a moment when one Pakistani decided to, quite literally and shamelessly, strip bare the truth of how institutions in Pakistan, are focused on the wrong priorities. "My dear patriots, there are far graver issues than this which need your serious consideration," wrote Pakistani economist and writer Raza Habib Raja, after the photo spread earned the rancor of the honor brigade. "The biggest issue is perhaps your screwed up mind set which gets riled up on these trivialities while completely ignoring much serious problems like rising extremism, sectarian killings and massive inequality."

Raja concluded: "...I loved that ISI tattoo. Now that was really liberating and bold!!!"

Asra Q. Nomani, a former reporter at the Wall Street Journal, is the author of Standing Alone: An American Woman's Struggle for the Soul of Islam. She teaches journalism at Georgetown University.

INDRANIL MUKHERJEE/AFP/Getty Images

 

SEPPOIN

3:32 PM ET

December 21, 2011

Double Standards

Aafia Siddiqui *attempted* to shoot a US soldier and got 86 years of imprisonment. Conrad killed Michael Jackson and got 4 years.

 

JEANLUNDER

4:27 PM ET

December 21, 2011

Tattoos

I never thought tattoo's could be so powerful!

 

SANDYSANDIEGO

12:10 AM ET

December 22, 2011

Father

I know her father disowned her for this shameful act... but yeah, she definitely has gained a lot of publicity... negative of course

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Snow Boots for Women

 

CHEERS2HELL

4:16 AM ET

December 22, 2011

Asra! plz have a heart

For Godsake im amazed at your obsession with a second grade actress who is nothing but an attention seeker. You wrote 3 stories(including a fake disappearance) in The Daily Beast in less than a week about Veena Malik nude pictures and rage in Pakistan . Trust me im a Pakistani myself and the furor over Veena's nude pictures in Pakistan is not so intense as portrayed in your articles, rather majority of Pakistani dont even care about her and your reference of Pakalertpress.com is just a cheap site and never heard of it before. Another thing i do not know from where you are getting your statistics about average income of Pakistani is 450$ , im not an economist myself but i think GDP per capita of Pakistan is ranked 137th and India is 129th , so not much of a difference.
I now doubt the credibility of The Daily Beast and FP because they allow writer like yourself to write stories for them.

 

TUBORGARDEN

9:44 AM ET

December 22, 2011

Awesome reply.

perfect reply.
I hope Asra should be ashamed after reading this..!!

 

CUTBULLA

12:44 PM ET

December 25, 2011

The major and only difference

The major and only difference between India and Pakistan's G.D.P.-
India's G.D.P. is "earned" from its income;whereas Pakistan's G.D.P. is 'aids" received from Saudi monarchs and U.S..

 

TUBORGARDEN

9:41 AM ET

December 22, 2011

Asra hold on

Asra you have wrote too many wrong points.

There is noting like that. She has not made this kind of pictures. It is that fashion magazine which does this!!

Over the past few years, there has been a growing tendency to dub Muslims as terrorists. And leading from the front in this blame game is none other than the superpower, the United States. It is extremely sad that such a tolerant and loving community is being dubbed as behind the terror outfits.

It is gross injustice that the Muslims of this world are being treated as second class. How many of you think that Muslims are behind the terror plots, no matter where they happen? No doubt most of the terror outfits are comprised of Muslims, but is it correct to say that all Muslims are terrorists? If we look at the community as a whole, the Muslims will outnumber almost the rest. Indeed most of the rich nations are Muslim nations.

There are a few misguided youth who have spoilt the spirit of Islam, disturbed the Muslim norms, created havoc in the world, revoked the laws of the land, disturbed peace, affected fraternal relations, and above all marginalised the facets and tenets of the KORAN --the Holy Book-- that has been leading several generations ever since it came into being. It is not just the Muslims that bow before the Koran, I being a non-Muslim, too, bow before the most sacred book, and I have no doubt in saying that millions of non-Muslims treat the Koran as their HOLY BOOK--much like the Geeta of Hindus, the Bible of Christains, and the Guru Granth Sahib Ji of Sikhs. All these sacred, religious books preach their followers fraternity, brotherhood, and love for all --no matter which religion they belong. Wouldn't it have been wonderful, had all of us followed our religion, keeping in mind the sanctity of all other religions?

this is my request to everyone..standby your faith, your religion, your prayer, your worship, your norms, but for God's sake don't use the pious name of God for violence, waging wars, letting bloodshed, diluting sacred human values, massacring men, women, children and old n infirm,---just for the sake of POWER n SUPREMACY over others.

ASK God when, you leave for haven, how correct are those indulging in gross human rights violations just to gain power n prestige just to create dread, fear n havoc in the world.

Muslims are a religious community, who believe in the sanctity n virtues of the Koran n the Prophet --the Great Prophet, who taught them to fight those who kill innocents, to wage a jihad against those who r antihuman-- not against all n sundry..

So, how did Muslims started being dubbed as terrorists? Being a community rich of strength n valor, the powerful Muslim lords saw themselves reaping dividends by ruling over the world. Just this was the beginning...n the rest is history, v much the present--may b d future too.

But can we let the blood of our brethren, n fellow citizens flow like this in suicide bombings, bomb blasts n all such atrocious tactics of the so-called terrorists? The disgruntled few r in a state of dissatisfaction n to satisfy themselves have started waging a war on innocents that they call as jihad. however, they fail to understand that in doing so, they have tarnished the sacred name of ISLAM, n invited criticism from world over..resulting in the world calling the entire Muslim community as associated with terrorists.

For God's sake stop calling Muslims terrorists. They are a community that loves its religion, its God, its Prophet, and upkeep human values. The dissatisfied n misled among them r the real culprits, who need to be justified. I have so many Muslim friends and trust me, they all believe in upkeeping human values, they believe in brotherhood, fraternity, their heart cries at the suicide bombings, their lives r disturbed by terrorist activities. They love humanity, first.

Do you know so many Muslims have died in the suicide bombings and bomb blasts? If the terroists who care so much for their religion, loved their religion n fellow Muslims, will they kill them? Will they place bombs at places where muslims r predominant? will they target muslim locations n habitations?

they have targetted muslim habitations..hyderabad in INDIA is a glaring example, where so many muslims were killed in the blast incide the mosque. such disgruntled elements placed the bombs inside the mosque only to create misunderstanding between different communities so that people fight each other out, which would result in the victory of the terrorists.

A Muslim scholar from Pakistan says: "Our religion teaches us that the murder of an innocent person is the murder of humanity as a whole. "

MUSLIMS r not terrorists. muslims r friends n fellow citizens. please do not mistake such a tolerant community because of a misled few!

Over the past few years, there has been a growing tendency to dub Muslims as terrorists. And leading from the front in this blame game is none other than the superpower, the United States. It is extremely sad that such a tolerant and loving community is being dubbed as behind the terror outfits.

It is gross injustice that the Muslims of this world are being treated as second class. How many of you think that Muslims are behind the terror plots, no matter where they happen? No doubt most of the terror outfits are comprised of Muslims, but is it correct to say that all Muslims are terrorists? If we look at the community as a whole, the Muslims will outnumber almost the rest. Indeed most of the rich nations are Muslim nations.

There are a few misguided youth who have spoilt the spirit of Islam, disturbed the Muslim norms, created havoc in the world, revoked the laws of the land, disturbed peace, affected fraternal relations, and above all marginalised the facets and tenets of the KORAN --the Holy Book-- that has been leading several generations ever since it came into being. It is not just the Muslims that bow before the Koran, I being a non-Muslim, too, bow before the most sacred book, and I have no doubt in saying that millions of non-Muslims treat the Koran as their HOLY BOOK--much like the Geeta of Hindus, the Bible of Christains, and the Guru Granth Sahib Ji of Sikhs. All these sacred, religious books preach their followers fraternity, brotherhood, and love for all --no matter which religion they belong. Wouldn't it have been wonderful, had all of us followed our religion, keeping in mind the sanctity of all other religions?

this is my request to everyone..standby your faith, your religion, your prayer, your worship, your norms, but for God's sake don't use the pious name of God for violence, waging wars, letting bloodshed, diluting sacred human values, massacring men, women, children and old n infirm,---just for the sake of POWER n SUPREMACY over others.

ASK God when, you leave for haven, how correct are those indulging in gross human rights violations just to gain power n prestige just to create dread, fear n havoc in the world.

Muslims are a religious community, who believe in the sanctity n virtues of the Koran n the Prophet --the Great Prophet, who taught them to fight those who kill innocents, to wage a jihad against those who r antihuman-- not against all n sundry..

So, how did Muslims started being dubbed as terrorists? Being a community rich of strength n valor, the powerful Muslim lords saw themselves reaping dividends by ruling over the world. Just this was the beginning...n the rest is history, v much the present--may b d future too.

But can we let the blood of our brethren, n fellow citizens flow like this in suicide bombings, bomb blasts n all such atrocious tactics of the so-called terrorists? The disgruntled few r in a state of dissatisfaction n to satisfy themselves have started waging a war on innocents that they call as jihad. however, they fail to understand that in doing so, they have tarnished the sacred name of ISLAM, n invited criticism from world over..resulting in the world calling the entire Muslim community as associated with terrorists.

For God's sake stop calling Muslims terrorists. They are a community that loves its religion, its God, its Prophet, and upkeep human values. The dissatisfied n misled among them r the real culprits, who need to be justified. I have so many Muslim friends and trust me, they all believe in upkeeping human values, they believe in brotherhood, fraternity, their heart cries at the suicide bombings, their lives r disturbed by terrorist activities. They love humanity, first.

Do you know so many Muslims have died in the suicide bombings and bomb blasts? If the terroists who care so much for their religion, loved their religion n fellow Muslims, will they kill them? Will they place bombs at places where muslims r predominant? will they target muslim locations n habitations?

they have targetted muslim habitations..hyderabad in INDIA is a glaring example, where so many muslims were killed in the blast incide the mosque. such disgruntled elements placed the bombs inside the mosque only to create misunderstanding between different communities so that people fight each other out, which would result in the victory of the terrorists.

A Muslim scholar from Pakistan says: "Our religion teaches us that the murder of an innocent person is the murder of humanity as a whole. "

MUSLIMS r not terrorists. muslims r friends n fellow citizens. please do not mistake such a tolerant community because of a misled few!

Thanks

admin of Travel agency

 

P N ESWARAN

8:27 AM ET

December 27, 2011

Are you hallucinating

What drug have you taken before writing your comment? I think it is best in the world!

 

PECASAUTONET

10:28 AM ET

December 22, 2011

Father

Yea, i Agree in but yeah, she definitely has gained a lot of publicity... Thanks!
Acompanhantes

 

BOWMAN

3:53 PM ET

December 22, 2011

Note that Ali Azmat is a

Note that Ali Azmat is a disciple of Zaid Hamid, and is one of the most ardent consipracy theorists who believes that Jews were responsible for 9/11 and other such staples of the Pakistani world view. His being mentioned as a part of the counter culture movement is totally wrong.

 

MAIWAND

6:33 PM ET

December 23, 2011

SHAME AND PAKISTAN!!!!

Its so surprising to hear the sort of reaction in Pakistan regarding this nudity by Veena as if , otherwise, Pakistan presents a very noble face to the world! Pakistan is the most notorious country in the world. You go to any part of the world and tell them that you come from Pakistan, they will stare at you and might laugh as well!! That is a fact , if in doublt, you guys can try it for yourself.THis is the global image of Pakistan for obvious reasons.
Coming to this issue of nudity, duplicity and duel facedness lies at the heart of Pakistan as a country and society. They show one thing to the world( at least try to) but they are in reality something else. If you visit main cities of pakistan, like Lahore, you will see hundreds of brothel houses with naked women sitting and inviting for sex, similar to what you might expect in red light area of Amsterdam! albeit less fashionable.
It doesnt make sense if Pakis are making hue and cry regarding this naked pic, they got millions of similar naked women on their onw streets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Although, they claim to be the very poius residents of the castle of Islam called Pakistan!!!!!! ( a joke of the century)

 

MARTY MARTEL

10:27 AM ET

December 26, 2011

Fireworks in the frost

Folks, let's admit it - Pakistanis are the coolest ones. While we may be numbed to the bone by winter, Pakistanis know no such paralysis. Instead, the big chill means big thrills for resilient Pakistanis, thawing the freeze by jumping
in and out of hotbeds of intrigue. In their sizzling pursuits, they're accompanied by aides as coolly composed as memos, tattoos and the ISI. Sounds like a spy novel, you say? Correct - with a Khar, not a Carre.

The hot crackle in our western wires began when a trans-atlantic memo somehow 'leaked' between Washington and Wagah. The red-hot chilli paper alleged Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari was seeking American assistance to stave
off an impending coup. As US-Pakistani businessman Mansoor Ijaz blew the shehnai on this secret, claiming a totally different Haqqani network in its wake, his revelations raised no laughs.

Indeed, few military top brass finding 'Memogate' amusing, Pakistan army chief Ashfaq Parvez Kayani hotly demanded a probe to unearth those lowering the army's morale - but not, ahem, planning the impending coup.

Tempers surging, President Zardari prudently flew off overseas for tender loving care unavailable in intriguing Islamabad. No one knew when or if he was coming back. Even upon Zardari's re-entry, rumours flew about this being a 'guest appearance' before a permanent departure into exile. Zardari's itinerary may relate to the second Pakistani secret revealed for all eyes only.

Clearly a believer in equal-opportunity embarrassment, Mansoor Ijaz sprang his next leak: heavy plotting in Pakistan didn't stop at Zardari and his Yankee doodles. ISI chief Shuja Pasha undertook his own whistle-stop tour, allegedly
raising support in Arab nations for an impending coup. Thus, while Zardari looked far West, the military looked near West. Those 'strategic' assets, after all, need to be nurtured - even at the cost of bulldozing a 'sovereign' civilian
government.

Which is not what you can say about those pictures of Pakistani actress Veena Malik, also raising temperatures all round. As PM Yousaf Raza Gilani sputtered angrily over an impending coup, Malik glowed with rage at her image appearing on a magazine cover in India, wearing little but an ISI tattoo.

More burning secrets tumbled out into the subcontinent's snows. Malik claimed she had been wearing a bikini which however morphed into that perfect birthday suit. Keeping the heat up Malik then performed a vanishing act herself, gossips claiming she'd been spotted hopping across that borderline sporting a thermal burqa. But the actress emerged soon enough in Mumbai, huffing that she was returning to Pakistan to have her Indian visa renewed - so she could come right back.

As we said, they richly deserve that Cool-Yule crown. For frost, fog or plain and clear fact, nothing deters our Pakistani friends from warming their chill-blains with verbal fireworks and traveling busily about - even if they're only going round in circles.

 

FLD

4:29 PM ET

January 7, 2012

She is attention hungry

India has more muslim population then pakistan. It is matter of shame for the country who let these attention hungry people to come and show their body.

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SUCAI

1:46 PM ET

January 17, 2012

Some of the celebrities of

Some of the celebrities of such background, do not know what is moral and what is immoral , Wrong social networking, excess availibity of money, make some celebrity misguided. hulu to ipad

 

MYCHE

11:42 PM ET

January 7, 2012

Today in Pakistan.

At least this article opened up a discussion of what is happening culturally in Pakistan and the social conflicts going on, rather than just reprinting the decades old stereo types of the country. What Pakistan really needs is more discussion and ballots and less bullets and bombs in resolving its inner conflicts.

Also both India and Pakistan need to really reflect on the social and economic costs their conflict over Kashmir has cost both countries. Is maintaining the conflict really worth it or would it be better to find a settlement and move on.

 

ASMUFTI

1:43 PM ET

January 10, 2012

There is no liberal society

There is no liberal society in the world who do not have moral values based on its culture and dominating religeon. Even fundamental human rights in highly liberal society have some moral standard to follow.and individual behaviour and conduct have to be in line with dominationg moral values. In Pakistan ,liberals who are in minority ,who believe in fundamental ,human right and freedom of expression, freedom of practising any religeon are proud muslim . Even Pakistan liberals believe that that citizens of Pakistan should behave in accordance with morally accepted norms.
Despite Pakistan being a elitest society, with few getting even primary education, primary health care or one day meal ,no drinking water,ever increasing population going under poverty line, people in the world do not know that in Pakistan there are no barrier for a poor person who is fortunate to get an opportunity to join Pakistan elite class.
Celerbrities ( people in show business, sports ,artists) by an large belong to low income family background with no or less education. Some of the celebrities of such background, do not know what is moral and what is immoral , Wrong social networking, excess availibity of money, make some celebrity misguided. Some celebrities do not have control over their ambitions. i may be wrong ,Veena may be one of such a celebrity.