Thursday, July 21, 2011 - 1:47 PM

Speaking in Chennai on Wednesday U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton sought to reassure a worried India that the United States has no plan to cut and run when it comes to Afghanistan, no matter how ready the American public may be to end its longest-ever war.
"I want to be very clear. The United States is committed to Afghanistan and to the region. We will be there," Clinton said, acknowledging India's concern that Pakistani influence on the country will grow while the U.S. presence recedes. "Yes, we are beginning to withdraw combat troops and transfer responsibility for security to the Afghan people, a process that will be completed in 2014, but drawing down our troops is not the same as leaving or disengaging."
That American commitment, Clinton said, extends to the country's women. While the U.S. sees the "not...pleasant business" of negotiating a political settlement with the Taliban as the only viable option for ending the Afghanistan war, Clinton has vowed that women's rights will not be negotiated away during the peace process.
"Any potential for peace will be subverted if women and ethnic minorities are marginalized or silenced," Clinton said. "What we have learned in the 20th century that we must apply in the 21st century is that you cannot deny women and minorities, whether they be religious minorities or ethnic minorities or tribal or any other minority -- you cannot deny your own people the chance to be full citizens in their own country.
And so when we look at what will happen in Afghanistan, the United States will not abandon our values or support a political process that undoes the progress that has been made in the past decade."
Wednesday's statement is only the most recent -- and most extensive -- of a slew of pledges from Clinton that Afghan women will not be ‘abandoned' to a resurgent Taliban, who famously barred women from schools and offices when they swept to power in the 1990s. Under the Taliban's rules, women could not leave the house without a male chaperone. Universities for women closed and the country's female teachers and civil servants were forced to remain at home. Only female doctors could treat women, and, with women banned from medical schools, these often proved hard to find.
At a Senate hearing the day after President Obama's June speech announcing the beginning of America's troop drawdown in Afghanistan, Clinton argued that "including women and civil society" in the peace process "is not just the right thing to do; it is the smart and strategic thing to do as well." Under questioning from Sen. Barbara Boxer Clinton agreed that "it is important that (women) have more seats at the table" in the High Peace Council, the body established by Afghan president Hamid Karzai to promote reconciliation with the Taliban, than the nine out of 70 currently allotted them.
Yet while Clinton's commitment to keeping women front and center is clear, the White House's interest in deploying political capital on Afghan women's behalf is far less certain. Women received no mention in Obama's December 2009 West Point speech announcing the ‘surge' of 30,000 additional U.S. troops to Afghanistan, and the President referred to them only once in last month's address regarding the withdrawal timeline for those same forces.
Around Washington human rights advocates and policy wags wonder whether Clinton and her State Department have any chance at winning their fight to help women gain a substantive role in the nascent reconciliation process. Does the United States really intend to veto a peace deal that leaves women out and puts the Taliban in, particularly given the eroding public support for the war and the growing desire for a swift Afghanistan exit?
Already there are signs that political realism may trump American ideals. Those familiar with Obama administration thinking say that the White House wants to be able to point to concrete achievements in the country in the run-up to 2012, while wrapping things up in Afghanistan "at any cost" -- and that a far more narrow definition of American interests in the region is in the offing.
As one senior administration official told the Washington Post's Rajiv Chandrasekran, "Gender issues are going to have to take a back seat to other priorities...There's no way we can be successful if we maintain every special interest and pet project. All those pet rocks in our rucksack were taking us down." But as Wednesday's speech shows Clinton will not give up quietly on half of Afghanistan. As the 2014 troop withdrawal deadline approaches Afghan women will continue to speak out on their own behalf, as they did recently in Washington when they issued their recommendations for a peace process that includes women, as well as civil society more broadly. They have a staunch ally in the current U.S. Secretary of State. But whether support for their stake in their country extends to the rest of official Washington remains an open question that only the coming months will answer.
In the end, it may become a question of the clock. Right now there is no real or formal peace process to point to, as State Department officials admit, and it is possible that the hunt for a viable political solution could stretch into 2013 or 2014, long after Clinton leaves Foggy Bottom.
"Clinton will not be in office by the time that (a settlement) is adopted, but even if she is I think it is going to be some sort of watered-down language that the Taliban agree to where it says ‘we agree to respect the rights of women,'" one administration official involved in Afghanistan deliberations told me recently. "It will likely be something so vague as to be meaningless."
Gayle Tzemach Lemmon is a fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations and the author of The Dressmaker of Khair Khana.
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Clinton will be gone by the time Taliban rule returns
Clinton will be long gone by the time Taliban takes over in Afghanistan and reimposes restrictions on women as preached by Koran.
New US Secretary of State and administration will be focused on other battles with NO intention of returning to Afghanistan to save women and minorities promised by Clinton.
The reason the Taliban came to power
I find it to be dishonest by most US media outlets that they purposely forget to mention exactly how and why the Taliban came to power. Equating the Taliban with the oppression of women is so far from the truth that it is absurd their origins are never mentioned.
It is also unprofessional for journalists to not mention this, and leads to a major loss of credibility. When one is involved almost completely in spinning the Pentagons line, all journalistic credibility is thrown out the window.
So lets get to the origins of the Taliban which is based on facts. After the Soviets were defeated, there was a lot of chaos and disorder. Many of the warlords that WE (the US) funded and backed were criminals and would commit all sorts of crimes such as theft, MURDER and RAPE. This plagued several areas. In one particular instance, two teenage girls were raped by and anti-Soviet commander (thought to be Kandahar police chief Abdul Raziq's father). The locals went to the village mullah, Mullah Omar, and reported the incident. He gathered his students, and went to the base, attacked it, freed the girls, and specifically had them sent to a hospital, and then after killing the guards, hung that commander from the barrel of a tank.
This was their beginning. So in essence, they arose primarily to protect women/ girls from the disorder and chaos that plagued their society. It is also the reason they banned women/girls from going to school due to safety concerns. There were a few girl schools that were operated under their protection. This is all factual. There is a NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC documentary that explains this quite well.
It was the Northern Alliance who were the ones mostly behind all the crimes perpetrated against women. According to Matt Hoh, a former US marine, this is the side we have backed.
Hi Dr. Kuchibi,
I am merely presenting you facts, not my opinion. The facts speak louder than the misinformation campaign run by advocates of further war on Afghan people. I ask you a simple question first? What about the human rights in Afghanistan? Do the children have a right to live in peace, or should they be continuously killed by US airstrikes and night raids? Do those children have rights?
Our country is not interested in human rights? Kill team pictures, Abu Ghraib, aerial bombing of civilian areas. This speaks of murder, not humanity.
Now, in regards to Afghanistan, the fact remains our media spins a story blessed by the White House which is full of misinformation.
A recent article in the New York Times confirmed that the Taliban authorized the education of over 200 female doctors, something that is blatantly ignored by this magazine and others.
Again, it is best to read the facts. Do other countries question us on our justice system, a system which allows rapists to go free?
RAWA is not a legit source of information. Those people (men and women) that were killed in the soccer stadiums were criminals according to Islamic Sharia law. So do are you now suggesting we fight against a faith? Are we actually fighting against Islam?
Now, with our economies in decline, the objective of intervening in that region for OIL and such has surely backfired.
It is best to listen to people like Mike Schuerer. I don't know how old you are, but the generation of American politicians such as Obama and Bush have certainly messed our country for a long time.
We, the youth, will try our very best to forget this generation of war-mongers and criminal elites who serve the military industry complex, and have put our nation in debt.
It surely a crime to serve their agenda by falsely speaking about protecting human rights when our nation is violating human rights.
Killing children, women, men via airstrikes is not human rights.
This is the horrific and cruel joke of the decade, and writers such as this should surely be ashamed of themselves.
It matters not what I want or how I want to live? This is a classic changing the goal post style of debate which reveals you lack any means of accepting the facts.
I do not want my country to impose war and an unacceptable and government (that lacks credibility because it supports a US occupation) on a people that vastly reject both our presence and the government we are trying to impose.
Thats all. Leave other people alone, and the world will be better off.
Afghans killed in US airstrikes, protest never covered !
To have a realistic and apolitical/ lacking agenda version of what is really happening in Afghanistan, and how Afghan are fiercely RESENTFUL to the US occupation, please read this article which was submitted today.
http://www.opednews.com/Diary/Obama-Petraeus-Panetta-Gat-by-110721-348.html
The end and collapse of our economic system is no one's fault, not an Afghan child who is blown apart by a US missile.
The most shameful and ridiculous thing about this war is that it involved at one time ONE of the RICHEST nations in the world fighting one of the poorest.
Our defeat there could have been avoided had we simply picked up a history book and read.
Our intervention in the Middle East/ Muslim world has backfired.
The facts you have presented above about Taliban, I have also read elswhere and your soruces are very good. thank you for that.
It is also true that Taliban, whether we like them or not, have protected women and at the same time as Afghanistan descended into chaos,restricted them in a way that went totally agaisnt Islamic teachings.
Now I know Afghans too well to tell you that they do not treat their women any differently to how they are treated in other societies in the region. The reason Taliban enforced such harsh rules on women was becasue Afghanistan was in a state of anarchy and when one warlaords subjugated the people of another, the first victims were women.
This is not defend the Taliban but if justice and truth is our aim then we must analysis things putting aside our prejudices.
You done a great job in that direction.
If people like you can come forward and join hands with us we can get rid of the scourge that is afficliting the region, terrorism.
Our people are crying out for help. No one is listening. Lives have been sharttered, destruction is all aorund. It is as if our lives are of of no value. 'Bury them in the rubble and call it collateral damage' is callous.
The biggest hatefilled book a US 'thinker' came up with was called THE CLASH OF CIVILISATIONS. These are ARMCHAIR analysts, ignorant of the world on the otherside but have the audacity to come up with such destrucive works.
What legacy have Bush Blair left behind? Racsim and Islamophobia has become so prevalent in western societies. If it was passive, it would have been ignored but no it is shattering the lives of those who live in the society whose minds Bush Blair and now Obama have mssed up.
Ask a Taliban if he would like to go and live in America. He won't say no. US is destroying that goodwill. No one hates America for it is.
NO HATES AMERICA FOR WHAT IT IS. BUT IT IS HATED FOR IT DOES BEYOND ITS BORDERS. In other words its the foreign policy.
Hi Striver,
Terrorism and foreign intervention are twins to each other, with terrorism being the twin response to foreign intervention in other regions. Our intervention in regional and global affairs is the root of global instability, and is coming to and end, not out of choice, but out of no choice.
I will tell you at this time, with our inevitable incapability to intervene further in that region, and the Muslim world, terrorism has come to an end. Foreign intervention and terrorism are part of the same coin, and the terms are interchangeable in describing the murders both perpetuate. In all due respect, both are in fact terrorist ideologies.
Instability has plagued the region ever since we started wars there, one of the first being the Gulf War I. Had we not involved ourselves in that region, and resigned to buying OIL at its market price rather than for 50 cents, there would have been no twin response to it.
But all is well, as our nations ability to wage war on other countries has rapidly declined, so has terrorism. The only terrorist, (and it is a confirmed terrorist group) I see operating in full gear now a days is Blackwater, an outfit that Hamid Karzai himself has implicated in multiple attacks on Afghan civilians. It sad and unfortunate again that our media, including this magazine ignores it.
While it is tragic that we the American will suffer for this generations crime (truly the Obama/Bush generation) of exploiting the middle class, and siphoning their tax money to the military industry complex. Surely, we will record this era as the era of criminals in our society who have violated not only international law, but also Constitutional law.
There are some blessings with the decline of our economy based on a capitalist system. As it disappears (which is happening and is irreversible regardless of what the pundits say), the foreign policy which has centered around foreign intervention also disappears.
Our intervention and interference in global affairs is the root cause of instability in the world, so as we are incapable of it, the era of peace is on the horizon.
Lets hope for the best then.
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