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Faisal Shahzad and the Pakistan Problem

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AfPak Channel experts weigh in on the Times Square attack, and more.

The radicalization of Faisal Shahzad - By Hassan Abbas

The Taliban's suspicion - By Nadir Hassan

Slipping out the back door? - By Nicholas Schmidle

Pakistan and America: fast friends? - By Imtiaz Gul

No more peace deals - By Saba Imtiaz

Close to home in Pakistan - By Philip Mudd

Don't be afraid of terrorism - By Brian Fishman

Tourism terrorism? - By Katherine Tiedemann

Shared responsibilities - By Kalsoom Lakhani

What if Shahzad became radicalized in the U.S.? - By Gregg Carlstrom

JEWEL SAMAD/AFP/Getty Images

 

LAL QILA

2:48 PM ET

May 7, 2010

America is busy radicalising the young of the Muslim world

"Faisal Shahzad and the Pakistan Problem", nay, a better title would be "Faisal Shahzad and the American Problem"

America is busy radicalising the young people of the Muslim world and its about time it accepts its responsibility.

And the same is true for Israel.

 

MARYSHELLY

9:04 AM ET

May 8, 2010

The Muslim world must take responsiblity for its failure

This comment sounds like a soundbite from the Al Qaeda and Taliban propaganda machine. It is the fault of the Arab world that they are allowing their youth to become radicalized because they chose to promote venom and hate against the West as a way of avoiding responsibility for their own failures. The Muslim world is at the bottom of the world development index, only ahead of sub-saharan Africa. The Muslim world has been corrupt for centuries and have had a decline even before the United States was a nation. The only solution to avoid responsibility is to blame the West for their ills.

As a counter argument to your statement that 99 percent of all deaths are civilians are simply not true. The Taliban is causing the majority of civilian deaths due to their suicide bombings and their use of IEDs. They are a group of thugs in the throes of losing power so all they know how to do is to terrorize civilians into submission.

Finally, the argument that the Pastuns have an "honor code" is irrelevant. Remember that the Pastuns, by allowing Al Qaeda sanctuary in Afghanistan and allowing 911 to happen, fired the first shot. It is the United States which has a vendetta and must fight to honor itself. The Pastuns are wrong to think that they have a right to launch terror attacks from their soil and not expect retribution. The Pastuns are now paying for the crime of allowing terrorist attacks to come from their soil.

So, the Arab world must take responsibilities for their failures rather than blame the West for every social ill they can conceive.

 

LAL QILA

10:32 AM ET

May 8, 2010

MaryShelly: The Muslim world is not attacking the West

Ad hominem attacks won't do; anybody who counters American maddening wars is not al Qaeda and is trying to bring some sense into the madness; similarly anybody who disagrees with the war criminal nature of Israel is not anti-Semite. These ad hominem attacks or other mudslinging doesn't work anymore.

The Muslim world is not attacking the West.

It's the 400 years of West's colonisations of the Muslim world and now the thrusting of foreign Jews on top of Palestinians and various invasion, occupations and threats invasions of Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran and Pakistan that are the causal factors.

 

MARYSHELLY

10:36 PM ET

May 9, 2010

One cannot say that we are

One cannot say that we are not being attacked by the Muslim world. We were attacked on 911, London and Spain were also attacked. Israel has suffered numerous car bombings. At the end of the numerous Western countries have suffered due to attacks by radical islamists. It would be unreasonable to assume that these same countries would not try to defend themselves, it is part of our survival instinct. If Israel is attacked and her citizens are killed, she has a duty to strike back. The same goes for America, if there are cells of terrorists in Pakistan training operatives to strike at population centers, once cannot assume that America will be idle in destroying these terror cells as a method of self preservation. The President of the United States has a duty to protect American citizens, if that involves strikes into North Waziristan, so be it.

 

LAL QILA

12:49 AM ET

May 11, 2010

Jumping to conclusions is not a sign of intelligence

Sept 11 attack on America was hatched in Germany, did America attack Germany?

The consequent British and Spanish attacks were also hatched in Britain and Spain, respectively.

How was Pakistani governement or people involved in the above?

Who "pulled down" WTC 7 the huge building close to the towers but was NOT hit by any plane?

Faisal Shahzad spent most of his adulthood in America and was radicalised in America because of America's war crimes against the Muslim world.

How is Pakistani governement or people involved in the above?

Jumping to conclusions is certainly not a sign of intelligence

 

LAL QILA

2:55 PM ET

May 7, 2010

A bit of education for the Americans

A bit of education for the Americans who have lost their way:

The more America attacks the Pashtuns of the Frontier Province the more severe their reaction will be to such attacks. Remember 99% of the people killed by American drones are innocent women and children. And also remember that Pashtuns have an honour code that predates the advent of Islam, it is called Pashtunwali and note that badal or revenge is one of its elements.

Multigenerational tit for tat revenge killings go on for generations and now America has stepped in the midst of it. Now badal/revenge has come to America.

You can educate a Pashtuns or even kill him but you can't take the Pashtunwali honour code out of him.

Thus the more America attacks the Pashtuns of the Frontier Province or Afghanistan the more severe their reaction will be to such attacks with guaranteed loss of American lives as part of badal/revenge.

 

LGREENB

7:48 PM ET

May 7, 2010

Did you know 78% of all

Did you know 78% of all statistics are made up?

 

ARCHIEAXE

12:48 AM ET

May 8, 2010

Time to call a Spade a Spade

Let us not beat around the bush anymore.

Everyone knows that Pakistan crops up sooner or later after every terrorist incident these days. Such widespread changes in that society where they abhor western liberties and values and extreme islamic ideologies that they've adopted, couldn't have happened without state support.

It is time to put all the traditional excuses aside, and recognize the simple fact that the army and the governments of that country encourage extremist islamic ideologies, jihadism and terrorism.

This has resulted in a huge swamp where all sort of terrorists survive and flourish. The different names of all these groups are mostly superficial. It is well known that the members change groups and alliances from time to time, even groups change names to escape sanctions. Perhaps the only constant is their allegiance to their specific islamic subsects (whahbism/deobandi/salafi or shia) or their allegiance and subservience to pakistan's ISI, the nodal agency which controls these groups.

Why do we forget that the officers of the ISI trained the likes of Osama Bin Laden and Ayman-Al-Zawahiri in the 1980s. Some of these officers are generals today. In other words the nerve center of the entire islamist-terrorist group is centered in Pakistan army's headquaters in Islamabad and Rawalpindi.

Appeasing that country with financial aid or military supplies is not the answer.

If the US had been bombing Islamabad instead of Kandhahar and Jalalabad, this war on terror would have been over within a few months.

 

LAL QILA

10:22 AM ET

May 8, 2010

Why do you sound like a Hindoo Indian baniya

Why do you sound like a Hindoo Indian baniya pedaling his wares?

 

ARCHIEAXE

3:16 PM ET

May 8, 2010

That's because you sound like

That's because you sound like a moron inbred pakistani.

Serously, did your instructor give you time off from the suicide bombing class today to wage jihad on the internet?

 

ARCHIEAXE

1:00 AM ET

May 8, 2010

Let us not beat around the bush anymore

If you've ever had a close watch on the activities of the senior officer corps of the Pakistan army, you will notice that they come across as western thinking liberals, who have family members settled in Europe or the US.

But dig a little deeper and down to the last one of them, they are hardliners with Islamic ideologies not much different from what the Taliban espouse.

The news media all around has yet to discover this little quirk in the demeanor of these guys. I can assure you it is shocking at first to see a high ranking general or brigadier of the Pakistan army speaking the queen's English, but talking of Jihad and conducting operations on infidels and the enemies with ease.

This is not a two faced Frankenstein. Those guys don't try and hide their ideologies. The failure is ours, for failing to recognize the true nature of the enemy.

Isn't it a travesty that $ 16 billion, and several American lives later Osama Bin Laden is probably merrily having curry in some safehouse in Pakistan?

The only way to reform this swamp of terrorists is to follow up on the words of sec Clinton, if they don't change their ways.

 

LAL QILA

10:20 AM ET

May 8, 2010

How do you explain America's Christian Wars?

Bush says God chose him to lead his nation; Bush’s Christian religious and political beliefs are so entwined that he appointed evangelical Christian General William Boykin to hunt for Osama bin Laden. Boykin has said things like that the war on terror was a fight against Satan, and also told a Somali warlord that, ‘My God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God and his was an idol.’

Source: http://lalqila.wordpress.com/2010/05/08/bush-says-god-chose-him-to-lead-his-nation-bush%e2%80%99s-christian-religious-and-political-beliefs-are-so-entwined-that-he-appointed-evangelical-christian-general-william-boykin-to-hunt-for-osama-bi/

 

ARCHIEAXE

3:15 PM ET

May 8, 2010

Ding dong bell, pussy in a well

Well the world was waiting for this breathless piece of rumor mongering that is currently underway in news papers and media all across Pakistan.

The local media in Pakistan taking a cue from its intel agencies is calling the Faisal Shahzad episode a 'Hindu-Zionist-CIA' conspiracy against Pakistan!

Why this line of reasoning one may ask? Hold on to your seats.

This episode happened in the US so CIA is supposedly involved. Pakistanis to this day believe that 911 was a CIA job because it happened in the US!

The hindu/india reasoning stems from the fact that the public prosecutor is an Indian and he has a Jewish wife!

There you have it! The Pakistanis long held suspicion of a India-Israel-USA axis stands exposed once again!

Check out today's copy of the top news papers in Pakistan. Specifically, the rag known as 'pakobserver' for your daily dose of conspiracy theories for the pakistani masses.

Now all that the US has to do to make pakistanis hate it a little less is to give pakistan more aid and weapons transfers.

Pakistan desperately needs the Oliver Hazard Perry class guided missile frigates to combat the taliban navy, it needs those AMRAAM missiles to shoot down the Taliban 5th generation fighter aircraft. And all the money that the US is paying the generals there is actually going towards expenses incurred in the war against terror and not winding up in credit suisse or in the cayman islands.

 

NAZIA

2:53 PM ET

May 9, 2010

US ATTACK VIA WAZIRISTAN

oh what a nexus is fabricated between wazirastan and attack on US.
That man faisal has passed years to get higher education,good wife and kids and US citizenship and suddenly he started behaving like a stupid guy who wants to loose all just by placing fire arms loaded car in NY street.
He has no background of extremism but is showing complete inclination toward settlement in liberal culture like US so how he would behave like that??
Why not we take such move as dirty game plan of CIA to pressurize Pak army and govt who is trying to create resistance for giving Pakistanis visas to their notorious companies like black water and DYNE CORPS.
or ISI is not in mood of giving them supply via Pakistani route?
They might be looking in mood of more attacks on poor mountain people for killing US wanted men.
This story can bring down the monetary demand of generals who are now in hurry to windup this game of messy war as it is highly demoralizing our soldiers on the critical border area.
So those who believe that faisal can bring the idea of destruction from waziristan to city of NY surely are fools of first world and perhaps policy makers of Pakistan who are running state matters under such illogical stories made by white brains.

 

MO283

7:11 PM ET

May 9, 2010

PAKISTANI TALABANS?

Why they are killing hundreds of innocent Pakistanis on the streets of Pakistani cities nearly every day?

Why these Pakistani Talibans are attacking and killing Pakistani army and other security personals?

Why they are bombing schools?

Why they are attacking Pakistan army school buses and killing school children of army officers?

Why these Pakistani Talibans are bombing busy markets and killing hundreds of innocent Pakistani people, women and children?

Why have they killed thousands of Pakistani army personals?

Who are these Pakistani Talibans?

Who are supporting and funding them and why???

 

LAL QILA

7:59 PM ET

May 9, 2010

Why does the terrorist group calls itself the Asian Tigers?

Why does the terrorist group calls itself the Asian Tigers? Do you think any Muslim fundamentalists would invent such a secular name?

Who is really behind the terrorist group Asian Tigers?

The real culprits behind this group are not Pakistanis or Afghans; this much I can assure you of.

Who benefits from brewing trouble in Pakistan; name one country or two or three?

 

NAZIA

2:46 AM ET

May 10, 2010

same questions with one answer

If you are unaware of ground situation and culture of tribal belts of Pakistan then there is no need to raise abnormal questions.
Behind most of attack either it was justification of US invasion and miltiary bases allotted to them in different areas of Pakistan or planning of forceful attacks on poor residents .
We are being blackmailed over our dead bodies and US is spreading its miltiary network on our land on the name of this war on terror .
Pakistani civilians and soldiers are just provided bait for them by our sold leadership or you can say have an status of experimental rats.
You didnt ask a question that why and who brought the most corrupt characters back to Pakistan to rule and why elite and ruling class is becoming more rich and strong in this 9 year war period.
Why you ignored that west puppy and our exCOAS Musharraf provided safe asylum in UK in nearby house of tony Blair and now he in this runaway state is giving lectures in US on democracy and war against taliabns.
American borders toward Mexico and Latin America has serious problem of drug and arms smuggling.complete racket of human smuggling is working there .why US never took any strong and miltiary actions there which they always encourage Pakistan army to take against on its settled people.?
If you don't know the background and culture of any area then don't raise illogical questions that reveal just your ignorance and nothing more than it.

 

MARYSHELLY

10:51 PM ET

May 9, 2010

It is also in the best interest of Pakistan to invade Waziristan

Remember, it is also in the best interest of Pakistan to invade North Waziristan. Pakistan now realizes that the Jihadis pose a threat to the state of Pakistan and must be routed out. The Pakistani army has gone through great lengths in destroying militant bases in the Swat Vally and other parts of the Tribal areas. North Waziristan looks like the last holdout. Most of the troops will be Pakistani but the US can support them via special forces units and packs of drone aircraft. This type of co-operation between the US and Pakistan can also foster co-operation in the future.

 

NAZIA

2:59 AM ET

May 10, 2010

WhO are you people to decide

WhO are you people to decide what is good for Pakistan.
You people save your street by catching Faisal like US citizen.
it is good job you have done.
Now ask your security agencies that why they couldnt check faisal shezad before giving him clearance for citizenship that he has some links with waziristan.
Ask you LEA that 911 attackers were saudis but how they breached one of modern setup of US airport system.They got clues that all was made in US then where your agencies were sleeping at that moment where few having knifes and cutter ruined all security plans of US a super power.
if you think that waizrsatan is hub of evil genius people who can destroy US security by activating its few jihadis whom you granted citizenship then you should all die with shame and leave US to live in some other country.
You people always love our military dictators and provide them full dollar aides on the name of bribes in defense deals.You brought back zardari like people and protecting them as long as possible and giving us free advice that attacks on people of Pakistan is our favour!!
Sorry take care of your boundary only and support supporting our corrupt icons that is all you should do.
We know how to handle our problems better than you.

 

MARYSHELLY

7:27 AM ET

May 10, 2010

Yes, it is a good idea.

Are you suggesting that it is the fault of the security agencies and not the Jihadis? You are suggesting that the Jihadis have a God given right to attack the US and that if any terrorists succeed it is the fault of the US? That is unacceptable. The US must go directly into the nexus of terror and destroy the terrorists where they are planning and radicalizing youth to attack the West. Simply staying put and playing defense all the time would be a silly strategy. The West must be proactive and destroy the radicals in their spawning pools.

In addition, it is true that Pakistan benefits from the attack in Waziristan. Most of the Pakistanis are secular and do not follow the more primitive beliefs of the villagers in the Tribal agencies. It is in these tribal agencies that Al Qaeda is brainwashing young men for their little "jihad". Sending troops into Waziristan would be a good way to further disrupt the operational abilities of the Jihadi network.

You suggest that we don't know how to run that part of the world. Well, since that part of the world is spawning so many terrorists it is clear that your people don't either.

 

LAL QILA

12:55 AM ET

May 11, 2010

Mary Shelly, it is stupid to ask Pakistan to attack itself

The innocent people of North Western Frontier Province are Pakistanis. Why should Pakistan attack its own people.

Does America attack Arizona for letting illegal aliens and drug smugglers come through?

Does UK attack Northern Ireland because there are still some rebels roaming the streets?

No country wants to start civil wars with itself because some half educated dim wits in America asks them to do so.